EirePreneur posted to #irishopencoffee:

EirePreneur

Thinking that Robert Scoble's Kyte reaction to Dave Winer's post on ubiquitous recording would make interesting discussion point tomorrow.

11 months, 3 weeks ago.

17 comments so far

  • conn

    Have you got a link to that James? Working on a blog post here on the subject of the Observer Effect. By streaming OpenCoffee, are we distorting it?

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by conn.

  • EirePreneur

    On Robert's Kyte channel [http://tinyurl.com/2xzkc2] - the one from two days ago where he's wearing the yellow shirt, entitled "Dealing with micro celebrity status". I thought it was a fascinating reaction and clearly Scoble has been thinking deeply about the issues surrounding the widespread use of camcorders.

    Issues he addresses include how we can play to the camera, always wear a camera face or just become comfortable with being our normal selves while recorded. In fact it's interesting to see how normal Scoble looks now while recording, not smiling, sipping from his coffee, almost as if he was just talking to you in person.

    He also notes that he quickly moved away from Ustreaming to using Kyte instead because with 'almost-live' Kyte he had the chance to access the quality/content of the video before publishing.

    Re: "The Observer effect" that's very much related, and exactly the kind of thing we need to address. I've been as thrilled by Ustreaming as anyone but do now worry that we may be distorting this with live streaming.

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by EirePreneur.

  • conn

    I've scrapped the post I was writing - and I'm going to point to this instead! :)

    @Festoon (Michael Kiely) and I have been discussing this. We are going to continue to bring cameras to OpenCoffee and other events, primarily for the purpose of recording interviews with consenting parties for later publication on a soon-to-be-launched new technews videoblog. We want to use the events as a backdrop, as an opportunity to meet interesting people to interview, and we want to report on the events themselves. Note I say "report on" - not "interfere with".

    We will provide equipment and support for live streaming if people have something they want to broadcast. Or anyone who wants to can do it - as Eoghan did in Dublin. But no matter who does it, I think there ought to be a time and space where people can breathe freely, knowing that they are not part of a broadcast.

    And at risk of stating the obvious, now that we've all tried it out, let's not feel that we have to stream for streaming's sake. There's a perfectly adequate Twitter/Jaiku channel reaching out to interested parties outside the event. I'd suggest we don't turn the cameras on unless we get a Tweet saying: "Give us a look!" ;)

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by conn.

  • Festoon

    Hear! Hear! Let demand dictate whether there's a stream. Guest speaker events would be ideal candidates for streaming, for example.

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by Festoon.

  • Festoon

    When you point a camera at something, you change it. Usually a cameraman wants to capture for a specific purpose, usually for an edit which usually has a point to make. Unfortunately Scoble & Winer seem to be fixated on the merits or otherwise of recording

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by Festoon.

  • Festoon

    everything. This sounds like amateur writers debating the merits of publishing every word that comes into their heads.

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by Festoon.

  • topgold

    Speaking with the expertise of someone who has borked more than one video rendering, I think there is excellent value in orchestrating four-minute video moments. Everyone involved knows what they are getting. We will harvest more professional content, in a way that helps the entrepreneurs by giving them a mirror to their online video presence. Besides that, high-quality video fits inside our third level entrepreneurship module better than an amateur stream-up.

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by topgold.

  • EirePreneur

    "This sounds like amateur writers debating the merits of publishing every word that comes into their heads."

    Great quote Mike. I'm learning loads from this discussion alone. Thanks goodness for Jaiku!

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by EirePreneur.

  • Festoon

    Sorry we didn't get a chance to talk today James. Tech difficulties! Resolved. I will explain the HD FLASH stuff.

    11 months, 3 weeks ago by Festoon.

  • lnoonan

    Wish I could have been there, looking forward to attending a session in the near future

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by lnoonan.

  • topgold

    We have an unfinished conversation that extends from this thread and I wonder if James, Conn, Michael and Liam would agree to joining in on a half-hour recorded phone conversation for the world.

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by topgold.

  • Festoon

    I'm in, Bernie - to the Lawrence of Arabia tent we go!

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by Festoon.

  • Festoon

    RE: Winer - to poorly paraphrase a line from The Incredibles "When everyone is famous - no one will be".

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by Festoon.

  • conn

    Give me a call anytime today Bernie.

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by conn.

  • lnoonan

    Sounds good to me, I am in Thurles at my desk

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by lnoonan.

  • EirePreneur

    No worries Mike, looking forward to hearing all about the implications of Flash HD support next time.

    Sure Bernie, I'll tune in as a curious observer but the rest of you guys are the (video) podcasting experts.

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by EirePreneur.

  • Festoon

    Bernie is in Kilkenny so I imagine the call will be Monday?

    11 months, 2 weeks ago by Festoon.

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